F*cked up institutions

UN   3 votes - 60 %
IMF   5 votes - 100 %
NATO   3 votes - 60 %
WHO   3 votes - 60 %
G8   5 votes - 100 %
G20   5 votes - 100 %
WTO   5 votes - 100 %
EU   2 votes - 40 %
NAFTA   4 votes - 80 %
NORAD   3 votes - 60 %
LHuSiBeers   1 vote - 20 %
 
5 Total Votes
WIPO by Herring (2.00 / 0) #1 Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 10:37:55 AM EST
NCP



WIPO by greyshade (2.00 / 0) #2 Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 11:41:04 AM EST
$my_workplace

"The other part of the fun is nibbling on them when they get off work." -vorheesleatherface


wipo: All of the above by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #3 Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 05:08:58 PM EST
Except maybe for LHuSiBeers, which afaik always works as expected.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)



As a leading protagonist by Breaker (4.00 / 1) #4 Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 02:54:22 AM EST
Of the LHuSiBeers, I can state that we have continually delivered on our mission statement -"go to the pub and drink beers".


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Nope by ucblockhead (1.00 / 1) #9 Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 07:16:19 AM EST
It is fucked up in that it is damn inconvenient for me to get to.
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Moonbat by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #5 Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 02:58:35 AM EST
Is a fucking loon.  And a hypocrite.




So then you won't by marvin (2.00 / 0) #6 Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 04:54:58 AM EST
be joining his fan club? They'll certainly miss your penetrating insight and well-documented rebuttals.

I don't have ready access to the documents he references, but the Wikipedia entry seems to support Monbiot's description of history. 

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I wouldn't want to be a member by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #7 Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 05:32:01 AM EST
Of any society that would accept my membership application.

Have you read any of Moonbat's Grauniad articles?  His science is less than rigorous, he preaches "green" public transport then moves to the sticks and buys a car.


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I usually read them by marvin (2.00 / 0) #8 Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 07:11:17 AM EST
He posts them weekly to monbiot.com. Somehow, even owning a car, I would imagine that his footprint is much lower than yours. It's not like he's driving it everywhere. Not sure about Brits, but the typical Canadian drives down to the corner store for milk, shuttles the children to and from school, and everywhere else. Some kids don't even know how to use a sidewalk here.

Funny about his reasoning for the move to Wales - so that his daughter can grow up learning a regional language that is spoken by maybe a few hundred thousand people at most and used by nobody else in the world. Seems rather parochial and insular to me. Had he moved to Zurich, Marseilles, Milan, Shanghai or Tokyo to learn a local language, it might make sense, but why bother with Welsh, apart from pure nationalism?

What I have read of his science writing seems fairly decent and well researched, based on my chemistry background and what I've read elsewhere on environmental science. No red flags jumped out at me while reading "Heat", although he put a lot of weight on a concrete replacement that isn't quite ready for prime time.

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I don't know by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #10 Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 07:59:46 AM EST
I get the bus or cycle in to work, my food is delivered to my door by an organic farm collective, I recycle everything I can and when I have time I will build a composter for my kitchen waste.  I'm a tightwad enough to not put the heating on unless I already have a jumper on.  So it is possible Moonbat's carbon footprint is less than mine, but probably not by much.

I have yet to read a Moonbat piece where he brings in other research that does not agree with his green agenda, and several where the reports he's writing about have questionable science behind it.




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Activist / journalist first and foremost by marvin (2.00 / 0) #12 Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 11:24:45 AM EST
He's definitely not a scientist. He has an agenda, and doesn't seem to hide that fact. I don't really trust people who claim to be unbiased. I'd rather know their bias out front, so that I can view their work correctly.

I have yet to read much of his work where I am aware of significant deficiencies. So far, I haven't seen anything I can remember where he twists things or takes stuff out of context. People who dislike Monbiot, on the other hand, seem to constantly take his writing out of context.

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He never seems to look at both sides by Breaker (2.00 / 0) #13 Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 01:42:14 AM EST
Which is fine for an activist, not such a good trait in a journalist.


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We are massively Keynesian by cam (2.00 / 0) #11 Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 09:47:37 AM EST
in 2000 the Au govt's tax revenue as a % of GDP was 33.6%; one third of the economy is government run. 


cam
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