What do you do when you need to apologise?

Run away   0 votes - 0 %
Aplogise to who? I'm always right!   4 votes - 30 %
Feel stupid and write an email   2 votes - 15 %
Find person you wronged, say sorry and move on   6 votes - 46 %
Sort of try and forget about it and hope they do too   0 votes - 0 %
Stay out of that persons way till they don't care anymore   0 votes - 0 %
Try not to see person but if I do will sort of mumble something about sorry   1 vote - 7 %
 
13 Total Votes
watchful for signs of autism by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #1 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 05:10:11 AM EST
Why? Does it run in the family?

I remember that diary. IIRC, I posted something about Canadian Boobies, or CBBs writing about them, being a Threat To World Peace or part of a Plan For World Domination or something.

Haven't heard from codemonkey_uk lately? Is he another one who's dropped out of sight?

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

I think he got busy by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #2 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 05:12:48 AM EST
He seems to post one cryptic paragraph every three months.
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On autism by littlestar (2.00 / 0) #3 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 07:09:05 AM EST
Yes, CBB and his siblings have mild to medium Asperger's. This means that they all manifest (in different ways) difficulties with social interaction. For most of them it was something they dealt with in an okay manner, but it has caused them all issues at different points in their life.

Also, when you get smart people making babies you have more chance of autism to begin with (like in Silicon valley ), and then with the familial background, it certainly has some likelihood of occurrence (and more so with boys). I used to work as a Behavioural Therapist, working with autistic kids, and I married CBB so I always have my eyes open for signs. Truthfully I would expect him to be Aspergery, I'll be more surprised if he isn't.

*twinkle*twinkle*


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Mild to medium Asperger's. by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #6 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 07:31:48 AM EST
From what I've seen of the described symptomology I'd say that over half the male population is that way. But then ADD seems to be widely enough defined that over half the population has that, too.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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Ummm.... well...not really by littlestar (2.00 / 0) #8 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 08:26:50 AM EST
maybe half the male population YOU deal with and know and are friends with, but you're probably smart. That sort of warps your view. One of the required points for Aspergers is a very high IQ. I know a lot of men who have social issues but it can't be blamed on Aspergers cause they is too stupid. But, I do know what you mean... the whole of  'disorders' under the PDD balloon are sort of nebulas.
*twinkle*twinkle*


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Erm by Herring (2.00 / 0) #20 Tue Mar 20, 2007 at 02:44:15 AM EST
SD is diagnosed as Aspie but without a particularly high IQ.

You can't inspire people with facts
- Small Gods

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Wow by littlestar (2.00 / 0) #21 Tue Mar 20, 2007 at 06:18:54 AM EST
I cannot believe how quickly things change. The DSM IV does not include high IQ in the description. That is different then before. I am currently reading more about this now, very interesting, I'm glad that you pointed out my error.

I see that in most articles they point out a "general impression that Asperger's syndrome carries with it superior intelligence and a tendency to become very interested in and preoccupied with a particular subject" (Lois Freisleben-Cook from O.A.I.S) or something like it; but, normal IQ is the definition. That's interesting because even current doctors are saying the old information then as well, as my friend Knitters has an AS son (now 13) and his IQ being high was given as one of the definitives for being AS and not something else.

And, clearly, your experience is different, they have the up to date info. Hahaha.. wacky. Thanks for getting me up to date!
*twinkle*twinkle*


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I phrased badly by Herring (2.00 / 0) #24 Tue Mar 20, 2007 at 07:23:48 AM EST
She's never had an IQ test, but I'd guess somewhere around 130 (based upon educational achievement). I wouldn't count that as very high.

The definition I've read mentions "sometimes" high educational ability. She certainly has obsessive interest in stuff.

Actually, apparently some educational organisation want here to appear in a video they're doing about provision for Aspies in the state school system. She needs to appear in full-on white makeup/black lipstick though.

You can't inspire people with facts
- Small Gods

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I wouldn't base by littlestar (2.00 / 0) #25 Tue Mar 20, 2007 at 11:22:54 AM EST
her IQ on educational ability. The two don't really have anything to do with each other. Not to say you're not right, I obviously have no idea, I just wouldn't use books smarts as the litmus tester. Lots of people who are VERY smart suck or are mediocre in the education system.

Yeah, most of the definitions I have read today mention the possibility of the high IQ; it's clearly something that has changed. They used to define it differently, but shit is always changing, it's hard to keep up. Having not been in school for a while, and not dealing with the population now, clearly I am out of date.
*twinkle*twinkle*


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Heh by Herring (2.00 / 0) #26 Tue Mar 20, 2007 at 11:35:53 AM EST
I base my guess on the amount of work she does versus results. Plus a few people I have known who have been tested (I have and I got good results with no work).

You can't inspire people with facts
- Small Gods

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Reaffirming Human Stupidity by CheeseburgerBrown (4.00 / 1) #10 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 09:41:13 AM EST
If multiple sclerosis became the flavour of the month you'd see reports of a lot of ambiguous descriptions of the symptomology and a helluva lot of people claiming to have "partial MS" due to some half-imagined kinship with a vogue symptom or two.

Due to all the attention, you'd probably even see a spike in diagnoses, all things being equal, just from all the hype and gripe alone.

Still, it wouldn't change a damn thing for people who actually did have MS except for the strain from rolling their eyes everytime some idiot cried, "Me too!"


I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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A friend has MS by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #11 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 09:54:22 AM EST
She's doing OK, considering. The progress is fairly slow in her. She can still walk and talk, but only slowly and very quietly.

A couple I know have a kid who has autism. Not the "slightly socially non-interactive" autism. The full "bangs head on wall and can't communicate with humanity" autism.

Actually, the autistic kid is doing much better, thanks to intense therapy. He will probably never go to school with other kids and it's doubtful he'll ever be able to function on his own, but at least he can communicate with people. A little bit.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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We Can Always Turn To Him... by CheeseburgerBrown (2.00 / 0) #12 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 10:19:05 AM EST
...when we've spilled our box of toothpicks and we only have four-fifths of a second to count them all.


I am from a small, unknown country in the north called Ca-na-da.
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Up to a point by ambrosen (4.00 / 3) #17 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 02:38:18 PM EST
Because the fixation on abstract structures which I'd call the most salient feature of Autistic Spectrum Disorders is an excess of a desirable characteristic which I'd call being able to make a fucking coherent model of the world unlike $flamingidiot who happens to have reminded me (a person not unknown to repeat strange arbitrary numbers to himself and get attached to them) through their glaring absence of ability to respect the desirability of making a measured response to whatever mildly emotionally distracting issue is needing to be fixed.

Whereas a failure to transmit nerve impulses is clearly a wrong and measurable fault. So autism can't be cleanly separated from normal behaviour and MS can.

I'd say a similar problem to autism is food intolerances, where it's merely a matter of how much of any food you can take (if it's a lot, the problem is referred to as indigestion) before it's a problem. And there, you get a high profit margin range of products in all shops catering to the affluent worried well at least as much to those who've suffered real problems and systematically discovered what it is that causes them problems. I think some people will always find someone else's illness they can hang their minor problems on to avoid admitting that their anomie is just anomie.

I also think it cogent to mention that I'm drunk.

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Ummmmm... by littlestar (2.00 / 0) #22 Tue Mar 20, 2007 at 06:27:26 AM EST
Asperger Syndrome or (Asperger's Disorder) is a neurobiological disorder; meaning amongst other things it is a failure with transmitting nerve impulses.

Just sayin'.
*twinkle*twinkle*


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Cite? by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #23 Tue Mar 20, 2007 at 06:47:56 AM EST
Seems to me it's just a case of how the perfectly normally functioning parts of the brain are wired to each other slightly differently.

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silicon valley aspergers by MillMan (2.00 / 0) #7 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 07:58:06 AM EST
you should see the crowd on the train I take to work in the morning.

When I'm imprisoned as an enemy combatant, will you blog about it?

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I try to imagine by littlestar (2.00 / 0) #9 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 08:27:57 AM EST
I would guess it's a lot of heads down in papers/blackberries/computers and not a lot of chit chat.
*twinkle*twinkle*


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So just like the TTC by Driusan (2.00 / 0) #13 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 10:34:18 AM EST
With more papers/blackberries/computers.

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laptops. everywhere. by MillMan (2.00 / 0) #15 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 11:15:25 AM EST
Whereas I read books or sleep. Or stare blankly out the window.

When I'm imprisoned as an enemy combatant, will you blog about it?

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i've tried this once or twice by aphrael (2.00 / 0) #19 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 04:31:15 PM EST
but basically can't do it. the book or newspaper or whatever is just easier.

If television is a babysitter, the internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up.
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excuse me by persimmon (2.00 / 0) #14 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 11:04:47 AM EST
I need to borrow "Aspergery" and put it next to "autistiform" in my list of admirable words which are probably not actual words.

I'll have it back to you in a minute or two. Promise.
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WIPO: Clean my guns by ammoniacal (4.00 / 1) #4 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 07:16:21 AM EST

"To this day that was the most bullshit caesar salad I have every experienced..." - triggerfinger

Thanks cu-ti by littlestar (4.00 / 1) #5 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 07:25:32 AM EST
Always making me giggle.
*twinkle*twinkle*


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i love popsicle. by LilFlightTest (2.00 / 0) #16 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 01:00:29 PM EST
she's the only kid aside from my own siblings i've ever been able to have a full conversation with. she speaks very clearly, doesnt mumble (much, tiredness does that) and is crazy smart. i hope mine are just like her.
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WIPO: i prefer a two phase approach by misslake (2.00 / 0) #18 Mon Mar 19, 2007 at 04:12:16 PM EST
i like to run away and hide and later find the person and apologise.

and for baby yammers:
boohbah zone from europe. it's made for little ones.
www.boohbah.com/zone.html

About the poll . . . by slozo (2.00 / 0) #27 Tue Mar 20, 2007 at 02:28:45 PM EST
. . . I think the biggest problem with apologies is understanding an apology is necessary - or the right thing to do.

I think the majority of people, good hearted people, want to think that they would apologise to someone when it was the right thing to do. In my experience, a good, straight-up apology to someone's face is one of the rarest things indeed . . . it's a good thing the poll is anonymous.

Wellllll by littlestar (4.00 / 1) #30 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 03:47:10 AM EST
You have to remember that people don't always agree about when an apology is necessary. There are things that we all feel should have been aplogised for, but we don't get and have to let go (welcome to one of the MOST important things to a happy marriage).

The thing is, if there is something that someone doesn't apologise to you for, you should be going to them and talking about the issue if it is something you REALLY feel strongly about. Usually you will find out why the person didn't apologise, particularly if it is someone who cares about you. There is absolutely NO DOUBT that we have ALL been the person that hasn't aplogised to someone who feels they are due.
*twinkle*twinkle*


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How do Popsicle and Yam get along? by duxup (2.00 / 0) #28 Wed Mar 21, 2007 at 09:47:53 AM EST

In my experience children of Yams age can be pretty interested in the activities of their older siblings, to the older child’s dismay at times.  At the very least it could be useful in distracting the Yam for a while…

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They are the best of friends by littlestar (2.00 / 0) #29 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 03:41:29 AM EST
although Popsicle does have problems with sharing her toys, not his of course. But, they are sooo super cute together, Popsicle LOVES him and chases him to make him giggle and wrestles with him on the floor. It is super cute.
*twinkle*twinkle*


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I'm sorry by codemonkey uk (2.00 / 0) #31 Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 01:58:54 AM EST
I'm sorry I upset you.

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Almost as Smart As you.