Works Council

Needed   0 votes - 0 %
Desirable   1 vote - 20 %
Meh   0 votes - 0 %
Useless   0 votes - 0 %
Bad   1 vote - 20 %
Horrible   0 votes - 0 %
Fucking cunts who should get off their fat asses and do some work, and find another job if they're not happy   3 votes - 60 %
 
5 Total Votes
Sounds like the worst aspects of a union by georgeha (4.00 / 1) #1 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 03:00:51 AM EST
complain too much and you'll be buried under an autobahn expansion.




Quite by ReallyEvilCanine (4.00 / 1) #8 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 04:04:33 AM EST
It's reminiscent of the UAW of the 1970s, except that it's not a union: it's a group within the company to which the company must answer, from which they must take direction, and against which they can do little. The group claims to represent employees but they only benefit the slackers.

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I wish, oh how I wish by Rogerborg (4.00 / 3) #12 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 05:05:22 AM EST
That just once, I'd see a company doing this:

Boss: We're setting up a taskforce to investigate waste.  There are effectively no deliverables and you'll be unsupervised.  Who's got time to work on that?
Slackers: Ooh, ooh, me, sir, pick me!
Boss: Excellent.  You're all fired, and your little slacker dogs too.

How I wish.

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Don't those Betriebsrat idiots realize? by DesiredUsername (2.83 / 6) #2 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 03:06:32 AM EST
Work will set them free

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Laughing at Nazi death camps by hulver (2.00 / 0) #3 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 03:11:57 AM EST
Stopped being funny about 40 years ago.
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Actually, it was meant in irony by DesiredUsername (4.00 / 1) #4 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 03:17:35 AM EST
Calling them "la-di-da" social issues doesn't really prove that "hard business decisions" are inherently the most important thing in the world. Who is in charge here, human beings or corporations?

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Collective thinking isnt supposed to quash by cam (2.00 / 0) #5 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 03:26:56 AM EST
individual achievement or merit though. Equality is about power relationships, not merit. A meritocracy and technocracy are inherently unequal in skills, but not necessarily when it comes to power relationships. From baddoggies writing it sounds like the local council doesnt understand that.

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Well clearly by DesiredUsername (4.00 / 3) #6 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 03:44:18 AM EST
It was just the "la-di-da" that got under my skin. Complaining that all they care about is family status with no thought given to merit is valid because after all people are not interchangeable. Implying that family status is totally irrelevant is just as dumb, though, because how many man-hours of quality work are extracted from a person isn't their only worth, even to the company.

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Yuo Succeeded It by ReallyEvilCanine (4.00 / 1) #9 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 04:11:02 AM EST
Although the idea behind a Betriebsrat certainly seems to be a method of balancing the power relationship and protecting workers, Councils inevitably nix merit-based considerations.

How many sprogs my cow-orker has in no way changes his relative worth to the company, yet where a Betriebsrat exists, such an irrelevant factor is taken into consideration.

To further illustrate this, allow me to point out that even if I had €50K in debt hanging over me and said cow-orker had half a million in the bank and a working wife, I'd still be let go because "a father needs to be able to work so he can provide for his family". Seriously.

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Well, stop fighting the system by Rogerborg (2.00 / 0) #13 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 05:09:44 AM EST
And get spawning pups, you chump.

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Relations by ucblockhead (4.00 / 2) #15 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 05:19:06 AM EST
Clearly you need to tell them about me and my siblings, Dad.
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so remind me by martingale (4.00 / 1) #7 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 04:00:50 AM EST
why the company is unhappy about paying less?

I guess it's time to find other perks to top up the difference.
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It's paying the same. by ambrosen (4.00 / 2) #10 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 04:17:10 AM EST


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oops by martingale (4.00 / 1) #11 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 04:18:30 AM EST
You're right, I didn't read the rant very carefully. Disregard.
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It shouldn't be by Rogerborg (4.00 / 1) #14 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 05:12:38 AM EST
I just spent an hour in an annual appraisal, the output from which is put into a shredder and has no bearing on the raise (or otherwise) which I'm getting this year.  Net result for the company: one lost hour of my time, and my line manager's.

REC's employer should be able to save the time it took to actually do the performance appraisals, although I rather suspect that they've also found ways to expand their non-work to fill the void.

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Hey by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #16 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 05:43:57 AM EST
you're meant to be antagonistic to REC, not sympathetic.

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Only when he's whinging about his job by Rogerborg (4.00 / 2) #17 Fri Jun 30, 2006 at 07:14:43 AM EST
Whinging about commie pseudo-Unions, that I can get right behind.

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