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Tenure is overrated if she's competent by lm (2.00 / 0) #2 Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 01:59:39 PM EST

Sure, it gives close to the same level of job security as a retired US president, but if one is capable of playing the games that get one tenure one place, I'd expect that one can do the same elsewhere unless it was a rather exceptional situation that led to tenure in the first place.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic

Those were my thoughts, too. by gzt (2.00 / 0) #3 Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 02:09:49 PM EST

And if she can get tenure at $PRESTIGIOUS_SCHOOL (though the department isn't prestigious) and $OTHER_STATE_SCHOOL is willing to create a position for her, I think she's going to be all right.

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except that by joh3n (2.00 / 0) #4 Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 04:03:23 PM EST

with tenure comes more money, and depending on the wealth of the two schools she's giving up job security AND cash, which is like cash to the 1.5 power.

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right, it's not perfect by gzt (2.00 / 0) #5 Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 04:53:45 PM EST

But it's not infuriating career suicide. However much more money it is, one person in a tenured position is not going to be as much as having both of them actually working. And, well, she already got tenure at $PRESITIGIOUS_SCHOOL, shouldn't be too hard to get it at some podunk state school.

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: and, of course... by gzt (2.00 / 0) #6 Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 05:03:01 PM EST

...often people who have gotten tenure elsewhere are given tenure as part of a job offer, so, well, you know, lacking complete information, it may be safe to assume it.

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: don't be too sure on the latter point by joh3n (2.00 / 0) #7 Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 08:31:18 PM EST

I've got many anectdotal experiences to the contrary. Podunk state schools often deny tenure because it costs them too much.
Nevertheless, I tend to agree with you.
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