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I think this is true by FlightTest (4.00 / 1) #10 Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 03:12:32 PM EST

I think the vast majority of people don't mind. I think this probably goes as well for restaurants as well as pubs and bars. I'm not sure any restaurant would want to take the chance of finding out exactly how many people would prefer a non-smoking environment. The "bet your business" question is, does the number of people who would prefer a smoke-free restaurant outweigh the number who wouldn't patronize one given the choice? Even in CA, which I think probably has a pretty low number of smokers compared to the rest of USizicstania, I think the answer is "no".

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depends on the restaurant by StackyMcRacky (4.00 / 1) #13 Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 03:31:11 PM EST

chain places (TGIMcFriaggins) would have smoking sections. You're not really there for world-class food, after all.

Nicer places would be smoke-free - they want you to savor the food, and cigarette smoke distracts.

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I disagree by theboz (4.00 / 1) #18 Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 01:38:40 AM EST

I think the vast majority of people don't mind. I think this probably goes as well for restaurants as well as pubs and bars.

While I do agree with you on pubs, I disagree strongly on restaurants. Now that I've lived somewhere with a smoking ban for so long, if I go somewhere that allows smoking, I'll leave. It's disgusting and fucks up the meal. The thing is that in the past, we were all forced to be around the smoke, and didn't know how nice it could be not not have to deal with that shit at restaurants. Now that we do know, I imagine people would be very angry if they had to deal with it again.

Besides that, smoking has been relegated to poor, aging people. It's not viewed as cool by young people anymore and it will probably die out for the most part as a public fad within the next 25 years or so.
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Unfortunately, you're (partly) wrong by FlightTest (2.00 / 0) #19 Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 03:08:22 AM EST

Besides that, smoking has been relegated to poor, aging people. It's not viewed as cool by young people anymore and it will probably die out for the most part as a public fad within the next 25 years or so.

Not according to the CDC. There is little difference between the 18-24, 25-44, and 45-64 age groups. The 65+ age group has markedly lower smoking rates in fact.

The table doesn't really adequately address income. IMHO, groups of "at or above poverty level", "below poverty level" and "unknown" are too broad, though clearly those below poverty level have a higher rate as do those with less education.

So, for income, I found this, which supports your thesis that poorer people smoke more than those with higher income.

So yes, more prevalent amongst the poor, but at least as prevalent, if not more, amongst the young as the old. I doubt it will die out soon.

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There has to be some boarder towns somewhere by FlightTest (2.00 / 0) #20 Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 03:10:34 AM EST

near or on the boarder of states that do and do not permit smoking in restaurants. It would be enlightening to see which restaurants have more business.

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: I live in such an area by theboz (2.00 / 0) #22 Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 01:07:50 AM EST

However, I can't offer a lot of information since I prefer to drive into town to avoid eating at smoky places.
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