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One Caps City . . . by Christopher Robin was Murdered (4.00 / 1) #18 Tue May 23, 2006 at 11:04:37 AM EST

Because the full name is New York City, as opposed to New York, which is the state. You do the same for Kansas City.

If you come to town, let me know. I'll buy first round.

It'll have to be by blixco (2.00 / 0) #19 Tue May 23, 2006 at 11:10:02 AM EST

first and last, but yeah, I'll let ya know. I'm 99 percent sure we'll get there sometime this year.
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I'm unsure by Kellnerin (4.00 / 2) #22 Tue May 23, 2006 at 12:26:45 PM EST

of your logic. The USPS prefers that you address mail to "New York, NY" sans "City" (although we've had that discussion about what counts as "New York" as far as the USPS is concerned) but the official forms for both KCKS and KCMO are "Kansas City." One can certainly refer to the city as just plain "New York" with complete clarity but "Kansas" is never the city instead of the state.

Still, we agree on the which, if not the why.

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: I Unsure of Your Use of the Term Logic. by Christopher Robin was Murdered (4.00 / 2) #23 Tue May 23, 2006 at 12:37:52 PM EST

I would have thought my statement was more of an "unsupported assertion boldly proclaimed."
Trying to use logic, I'd assume you cap city because it comes part of the proper name when used as it was used in Blixco's diary. This is norm for any city, but the construction is usually "the City of San Francisco" or "the City of Akron."

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: I'm not sure the USPS gets a vote by lm (4.00 / 1) #26 Tue May 23, 2006 at 04:06:26 PM EST

The ``city name'' used by the USPS is actually the name of the post office which processes mail for the area under discussion. For example, the town my dad lived the last years of his life in was serviced by three different post offices. If you lived in one section of the town, you're mailing address was in Dayton, OH. But if you lived in another part of the town, your USPS address was in Xenia, OH. And if you lived in another part, your address was Fairborn, OH. Then, the town got its own post office, but it was a branch of the Dayton post office, so the mailing address for the whole town was changed to Dayton, OH even though the name of the town was Beavercreek.
In other words, the USPS designation of New York simply means that such is the name of the NYC post office. It has no bearing on whether or not NYC has City as part of its name or not.
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